This episode of the Productive Pastor will be a little bit different. I have a conversation with Omar Rikabi and Michelle Manual. Both of these conversations are centered around how productivity relates with our call and soulcare. These conversations stemmed out of the New Room conference this past year in Nashville. Omar and Michelle are friends from seminary. We had great conversations together and I wanted to attempt to repeat them for the podcast.

Our guest share their own personal stories of the tough journey of call and how productivity interacts with their own care of life and soul. These stories are tremendous and vulnerable and it was an honor to get them on the Productive Pastor. This is just a snippet of what Omar and Michelle share. The full interviews will be released in the future.

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Called: Following a Future Filled with the Possible by JD Walt

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