Productive Pastor 28: Productivity, Call and Soulcare

Productive Pastor 28: Productivity, Call and Soulcare

This episode of the Productive Pastor will be a little bit different. I have a conversation with Omar Rikabi and Michelle Manual. Both of these conversations are centered around how productivity relates with our call and soulcare. These conversations stemmed out of the New Room conference this past year in Nashville. Omar and Michelle are friends from seminary. We had great conversations together and I wanted to attempt to repeat them for the podcast.

Our guest share their own personal stories of the tough journey of call and how productivity interacts with their own care of life and soul. These stories are tremendous and vulnerable and it was an honor to get them on the Productive Pastor. This is just a snippet of what Omar and Michelle share. The full interviews will be released in the future.

You can find Omar’s writing at
You can find Michelle’s writing at

Called: Following a Future Filled with the Possible by JD Walt

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  • David Lyell

    Really thankful for Omar’s witness. Great encouragement.

    • It was incredible. The rest of the stuff is even better. I will release it in the future.

  • Kristin Rickard

    Regarding Omar’s witness…. I had to go back over and over to his explanation of perfectionism (around 10:00mins). I have always been called the “classic underachiever”; I just haven’t ever heard it this way – “I can’t do this the way I want to, can’t get my head around it, so I just won’t do it.” What a revelation to me! It isn’t just that I’m underachieving… I developed a way of dealing with the world that “protected” me from feeling overwhelmed. I see that I am backwards! Planning for my day prepares me for my day. Thank you SO MUCH for your honesty!

    • Omar got real with us. It was great. I’m glad this resonated with you so much.